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AVOID: Sun Hotwires / Nology Hot Wires on the 8

Apparently, Nology Hotwires spark plug wires are causing CEL lights due to either:
– misfirings
– melted plugs
– shorted ignition coils

Sun Hotwires looks visually the same as the Nology, and is the OEM for Nology outside of the US – Sun (the maker of Hot Inazma) is widely popular in Asia as a ‘ricer’ brand.

Our advice – stay clear of Nology/Sun – better safe than sorry. Other brands such as RE Amemiya, FEED and Autoexe do not seem to have any probs and has been street proven – at least in Singapore it has.

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“CAPACITOR” EFFECT WIRES with grounded metal braiding over jacket

The most notable of exaggerated claims for ignition wires are made by Nology, a recent manufacturer of ignition wires promoted as “the only spark plug wires with built-in capacitor.” Nology’s “HotWires” (called “Plasma Leads” in the UK) consist of unsuppressed solid metal or spiral conductor ignition wires over which braided metal sleeves are partially fitted. The braided metal sleeves are grounded via straps formed from part of the braiding. Insulating covers are fitted over the braided metal sleeves. These wires are well constructed. For whatever reason, Nology specifies that non-resistor spark plugs need to be used with their “HotWires.” In a demonstration, the use of resistor plugs nullifies the visual effect of the brighter spark.

Ignition wires with grounded braided metal sleeves over the cable have come and gone all over the world for (at least) the last 30 years, and similar wires were used over 20 years ago by a few car makers to solve cross-firing problems on early fuel injected engines and RFI problems on fiberglass bodied cars — only to find other problems were created. The recent Circle Track Magazine (USA, May, 1996 issue) test showed Nology “HotWires” produced no additional horsepower (the test actually showed a 10 horsepower decrease when compared to stock carbon conductor wires).

The perceived effect a brighter spark, conducted by an ignition wire, encased or partially encased in a braided metal sleeve (shield) grounded to the engine, jumping across a huge free-air gap (which bears no relationship to the spark needed to fire the variable air/fuel mixture under pressure in a combustion chamber) is continually being re-discovered and cleverly demonstrated by marketers who convince themselves there’s monetary value in such a bright spark, and all sorts of wild, completely un-provable claims are made for this phenomena.

Like many in the past, Nology cleverly demonstrates a brighter free-air spark containing useless flash-over created by the crude “capacitor” (effect) of this style of wire. In reality, the bright spark has no more useful energy to fire a variable compressed air/fuel mixture than the clean spark you would see in a similar demonstration using any good carbon conductor wire. What is happening in such a demonstration is the coil output is being unnecessarily boosted to additionally supply spark energy that is induced (and wasted) into the grounded braided metal sleeve around the ignition wire’s jacket. To test the validity of this statement, ask the demonstrator to disconnect the ground strap and observe just how much energy is sparking to ground.

Claims by Nology of their “HotWires” creating sparks that are “300 times more powerful,” reaching temperatures of “100,000 to 150,000 degrees F” (more than enough to melt spark plug electrodes), spark durations of “4 billionths of a second” (spark duration is controlled by the ignition system itself) and currents of “1,000 amperes” magically evolving in “capacitors” allegedly “built-in” to the ignition wires are as ridiculous as the data and the depiction of sparks in photographs used in advertising material and the price asked for these wires! Most stock ignition primaries are regulated to 6 amperes and the most powerful race ignition to no more than 40 amperes at 12,000 RPM.

It is common knowledge amongst automotive electrical engineers that it is unwise to use ignition wires fitted with grounded braided metal sleeves fitted over ignition cable jackets on an automobile engine. This type of ignition wires forces its cable jackets to become an unsuitable dielectric for a crude capacitor (effect) between the conductor and the braided metal sleeves. While the wires function normally when first fitted, the cable jackets soon break down as a dielectric, and progressively more spark energy is induced from the conductors (though the cable jackets) into the grounded metal sleeves, causing the ignition coil to unnecessarily output more energy to fire both the spark plug gaps and the additional energy lost via the braided metal sleeves. Often this situation leads to ignition coil and control unit overload failures. It should be noted that it is dangerous to use these wires if not grounded to the engine, as the grounding straps will be alive with thousands of volts wanting to ground-out to anything (or body) nearby.

Unless you are prepared to accept poorly suppressed ignition wires that fail sooner than any other type of ignition wires and stretch your ignition system to the limit, and have an engine with no electronic management system and/or exhaust emission controls, it’s best not to be influenced by the exaggerated claims, and some vested-interest journalists’, resellers’ and installers’ perception an engine has more power after Nology wires are fitted. Often, after replacing deteriorated wires, any new ignition wires make an engine run better

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April 2, 2007 - Posted by | Engine

59 Comments »

  1. […] using them… so far i always heard good things about it, till i found out this and read this.. AVOID: Sun Hotwires / Nology Hot Wires on the 8 RXReviews its installed on rx tho, but will it be the same case happen to b16a?? anyone with vtec engine […]

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  2. This applies purely for rotaries, which are more sensitive and troublesome than pistons

    Comment by gfoo | April 17, 2007 | Reply

  3. nology wire problems on my audi a4.

    paid $250 online and installed them. had misfiring problems. bought ngk iridiums for about $50 at advance auto parts. still had problems.

    got a shock from one of the wires and thought that i had received a bad wire. called nology and got another wire; $50. still a bad misfiring problem.

    bought another set of ngk iridiums ($50!) and used the factory gap of about .044 (my stock setup says .032). still problems!

    went to autozone and bought six denso iridiums; $81. better, but still missing. now, after reading this, will get a bosch wire set and trash those damn nology wires!

    $480 so far, plus $150, the cost of new bosch wires; an expensive experiment gone wrong.

    Comment by gibson | June 24, 2007 | Reply

  4. Having sold some hundreds of Nology Hot Wires cables and got always same or better performance than with any other low resistance ignition cables, I wonder why someone is writing all over world the same story (from other american ignition cable manufacturer) about the unsuitability of the Nology HotWires.

    Comment by Tuomo Kurki-Suonio | November 21, 2007 | Reply

  5. After a year of using Nology hotwires, I began throwing misfire codes. It appears they have damaged my coil packs. All other causes have been tested and ruled out to include Crank sensor, ecu, injector harness, plug, and injector.

    Comment by Boosted | January 9, 2008 | Reply

  6. I have been selling Nology Hot Wires in Finland now over 6 years for streets cars, rally cars, racing cars and motorcycles. We have never had any technical problem with these products and in most cases we have got 2 – 6 % more power and always better throttle response than with any other ignition cables or direct ignition system.
    I really wonder how somebody can write seriously such lies about those products which have been used or are in use in succesful racing and rally cars and motorcycles.
    I would like to continue the corerspondance and to hear how anybody has succeeded to get bad results with these products.

    Comment by Tuomo Kurki-Suonio | March 12, 2008 | Reply

    • Hey Folks – Its all about predatory marketing. Nology writes good reviews and the competitors act as customers and write poor reviews. To add to it, you must always buy directly from a licenced Nology distributor else there is enough of “copy products” in the market who may claim that its the original Nology.
      With all these reviews…its hard to believe who is right and who is wrong. Its like the Iraq war and the US’s intention in it??? So balls to everyone positive and negative…i say you go to the Nology dealership, and if they gurantee that their product wont screw up your engine, get it in writing and get it installed by them. If things go wrong, ask for a full refund. Its that simple.
      BS

      Comment by Boston Celtics | April 3, 2011 | Reply

  7. Lol, amusing read. I love to read stories about scamsters trying to separate people from their money. Nology sounds like the Bose Corporation of ignition wires — high prices through gimmickry and exaggerated claims. Thanks for the article, I am staying with tried and tested NGKs.

    Comment by Tim | July 25, 2008 | Reply

  8. This article was originally written by Magnecore. If you visit their website, you will see that instead of focusing on their own product, they have written amusing articles such as this one about virtually all other brands of spark plug wires other than their own. We have sold thousands of sets of Nology Hotwires over the last several years, and a few of us employees, including myself, personally use them on our own vehicles. I had a DYNO PROVEN gain of over 7 hp at the wheels from these wires on a V8 Chevrolet engine, and they also smoothed out a rough idle that I was having. We have had thousands of happy customers and truly believe that the above mentioned article is 100% false. Take into consideration that it was written by a mediocre COMPETITOR of Nology’s. Anyone who would like some factual information on this product is more than welcome to telephone us at New Level Motorsports and we would be happy to discuss our experiences with Nology products, which carry a lifetime warranty.

    Comment by New Level Motor Sports Inc | August 15, 2008 | Reply

  9. I HAVE SEVERE HEMMORHOIDS DUE A SHOCK FROM ONE OF THEM WIRES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | December 5, 2008 | Reply

  10. Obviously i had no problems with this wire for the past 3 1/2 years. As for people who used it for 1 year and have bad coils, could it be your coils is starting to go bad already ? some coils, like the rx8’s one is proven not to last and you definatley got to change it in about 25~30k km.

    Comment by Dave | February 3, 2009 | Reply

  11. I knew nothing of these wires when I purchases a 1991 Miata with them already on it (other than they looked cool). I have driven five Miatas and mine feels the best in the engine performance area. My car has 191,000 miles and I was astonished by a combined city and highway milage of 30.22mpg, these wires seem to work fine to me!

    Comment by Steve Smith | May 15, 2009 | Reply

  12. […] Re: Anybody using Sun auto product?(Hot inazma and nology) 1. A fren wanna sell to me his halfcut condition hot inazma hyper full set with a very reasonable price, is it worth to buy? Anybody using this? How come so expensive compare to other vs? not sure..never try b4..let other forumer advise. 2. Any comment about nology cable? why is it so expensive compare to other brand? Whats so special about this cable? fr wat i know, nology cable is built in grounding cable.. https://rxreviews.wordpress.com/2007/…ires-on-the-8/ […]

    Pingback by Anybody using Sun auto product?(Hot inazma and nology) - Zerotohundred.com | July 27, 2009 | Reply

  13. Pure Bullshit!

    I have been using the same design plug wires (not nology, other brand) it is inside my car for 2 years, from using nissan GA16DE then to SR20DE, I have no problems.

    Before and After, is a huge difference. With this type cables, the low rev are more responsive, and the mid rev and high rev are so much more powerful and smoother.

    I doubt ppl claiming this product is bad, have u really used it n tried it ? Or some bullshit claims ? I know alot shitty ppl has alot stupid theories coz they grad from somekind of genius universities.

    NEVER TRIED, PLZ DONT FUCKING COMMENTS NEGATIVELY!

    Comment by kendrick | October 2, 2009 | Reply

  14. I PUT THE NOLOGY WIRES ON MY FRIENDS DODGE AND THEY SUCK. I HAD TO REMOVE THEM. WHAT A RIP OFF AND HE PAID 300 DOLLARS FOR THEM. WHEN I TOOK THEM OFF I GOT SHOCKED AND DEVELOPED HEMMORHOIDS. PLEASE CALL ME AT 406-422-5137

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 4, 2009 | Reply

  15. THANKS TO YOUR WIRES I HAVE DEVELPODED SOME HEALTH PROBLEMS. DUE TO THE SHOCK FROM THE WIRES I HAVE SEVERE HEMMORRHOIDS AND HAVE BEEN RENDERED IMPODENT. I SUFFER FROM IRRITABLE BOWEL SYNDROME, CHRONIC FATIGUE SYNDROME, AND SEVERE JOCK ITCH. I ALSO HAVE A TERRIBLE FOOT ORDOR AND HAVE ATHLETES FOOT. I HAVE BEEN TRUAMATIZED FROM THE EXPERIENCE AND NOW AM SEEKING COUNSELING. I AM SCARED TO DEATH OF SPARK PLUG WIRES. I ALSO HAVE GOTTEN A FOOT FETISH AND HAVE A SRONG URGE TO BE A PODIATRIST.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | October 6, 2009 | Reply

  16. I SUPPORT ORGANIC FARMING

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 6, 2009 | Reply

  17. IF ANYONE HAS DEVELOPED HEMMORHOIDS BECAUSE OF NOLOGY, OR GOT A FOOT FETISH FROM THE . FEEL FREE TO CALL ME.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 8, 2009 | Reply

  18. I SUFFER FROM ERCTILE DYSFUNCTION DUE TO THE SHOCK FROM THE WIRES. IAM CURRENTLY ON HUGE DOSES OF VIAGRA. PLEASE CALL ME.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 8, 2009 | Reply

  19. I HAVE SEVERE ANAL ITCHING AND HAVE A STRONG URGE TO BE A PROCTOLOGIST. PLEASE CALL ME.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 8, 2009 | Reply

  20. I AM NOW STUDYING TO BE A PODIATRIST. AFTER THE SHOCK I DEVELOPED IA FOOT FETISH. I ALSO TAKE VIAGRA IN HUGE AMOUNTS. PLEASE CALL ME.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | October 25, 2009 | Reply

  21. I TAKE VIAGRA IN HUGE AMOUNTS, IT MAKES ME FEEL BETTER. I RECENTLEY DISCOVERED I HAVE HERPES, THIS WAS DUE TO THE SHOCK OF THE WIRE. PLEASE CALL ME. 406-422-5137 LOVE AND KISSES BOB YUDISKI

    Comment by bob yudiski | November 1, 2009 | Reply

  22. DUE TO THE SHOCK FROM THE NOLOGY WIRES I DEVELPOED THE URGE TO BE A CROSS DRESSER AND NOW AM ONE. I LOVE TO WEAR MAKE UP. MICHAEL JACKSON IS MY HERO PLEASE CALL ME AT 406-422-5137 LOVE BOB YUDISKI

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | November 1, 2009 | Reply

  23. I WORSHIP MICHAEL JACKSON AND WISH I COULD MARRY LARRY THE CABLE GUY. PLEASE CALL ME AT 406-422-5137

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | November 8, 2009 | Reply

  24. I FIND LARRY THE CABLE GUY VERY ATTRACTIVE AND THOUGHT MICHAEL JACKSON WAS GORGOUS. I ALSO THOGUTH MOTHER TERESA AND MARGERET THATCHER WERE HOT. I STILL HAVE HEMMORHOIDS, PLEAS CALL ME.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | November 10, 2009 | Reply

  25. THANKS GOD FOR KY LUBRICANT AND PREPARATION H

    Comment by BOB YUDSIKI | November 10, 2009 | Reply

  26. I AM STARTING A SUPPORTIVE THERAPY GROUP FOR THOSE WHO SUFFER FROM HEMMORHOIDS DUE TO A SHOCK FROM THE SPARK PLUG WIRES. PLEASE CALL ME LOVE AND KISSES BOB.

    Comment by BOB YUDISKI | November 10, 2009 | Reply

  27. I THANK THE LORD ERVERYDAY FOR PREPARATION H.PLEASE CALL ME. LOVE AND KISSES BOB 406-422-5137

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | November 15, 2009 | Reply

  28. I HAVE DIMPLES ON MY BUTT!!!!!!!!!!!! LOVE AND KISSES BOB

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | November 17, 2009 | Reply

  29. I SUPPORT ORGANIC MINING

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | November 28, 2009 | Reply

  30. I HAVE A ONE IN WEENER AND A FAT ASS

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | November 28, 2009 | Reply

  31. DID YOU KNOW PREPARATION H MAKE A GREAT SKIN CONDITIONER?

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 5, 2009 | Reply

  32. you know ice helps my hemmorhoids please call me 422-5137 love and kisses bob

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 6, 2009 | Reply

  33. you know this cold weather is good for my hemmorhoids

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 8, 2009 | Reply

  34. I HAVE A FOOT FETISH

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 8, 2009 | Reply

  35. ALL I WANT FOR CHRISTMAS IS A SOFT PILLOW AND PREPARATION H!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 11, 2009 | Reply

  36. i am emotionally constipated.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 15, 2009 | Reply

  37. I AM SUFFERING FROM PTSD DUE TO MY HEMMORHOIDS. PLEASE CALL ME LOVE AND KISSES BOB.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 15, 2009 | Reply

  38. YOU KNOW I AM ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WITH HEMMORHOIDS. WITH THE HOLIDAY SEASON APPROACHING. CONSIDER A CASE OF PREPARATION H FOR THAT UNIQUE PERSON.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 18, 2009 | Reply

  39. I wanted to believe in the Nology Hotwires. I had them installed on my F150 and it caused terrible problems with the Engine check light and coil failures. At the end I had to replace all wires again and needed a new coil and many hours in the repair shop. It was a terrible experience
    Stay away from these wires!

    Comment by Elden Chang | December 20, 2009 | Reply

  40. SOON I WILL HAVE SURGERY TO TAKE CARE OF MY HEMMORHOIDS, PLEASE PRAY FOR ME AS I GO THROUGH THIS DANDEROUS OPERATION.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 22, 2009 | Reply

  41. Hey Bob Yudiski,,,,,,,,, OR is it Bob Yuidiski? (notice the addt’l “I”)
    Sure hope you know more about these wires than how to spell your name.

    Your post make you look like a total fool.

    Many friends and associates have for yrs been using this design and guess what?,,,,, ZERO ISSUES

    Go take your Michael Jackson and Larry The Cable Guy dolls and find yourself a closet, because trust me,,, you belong in one, Lol

    Comment by John Ethelweisner | December 25, 2009 | Reply

  42. THE OPERATION IS THROUGH, THE NIGHTMARE IS OVER, IT WAS A SUCCESS. I AM ON THE ROAD TO RECOVERY. THANKS FOR ALL YOUR THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | December 29, 2009 | Reply

  43. THE BIGGEST THING I HAVE TO FACE NOW IS MY ADDICTION FOR PREPARATION H. I THINK I MIGHT GO IN FOR TREATMENT.

    Comment by BOB YUIDISKI | January 3, 2010 | Reply

  44. Lol,, Bob, you are nothing but a farce
    Anybody that has used the Nology Hotwires knows you are so full of shit that truly IMHO,, IT isn’t even funny

    Keep up your bullshit posting though,, I get a kick out of watching such a fool make even more of a fool of them self

    Comment by John Ethelweisner | January 3, 2010 | Reply

    • Hello John E.,
      First and foremost to you and anyone reading this, this IS the real Bob Yudiski. I am writing to set the story straight. All the previous comments posted here are not by me, but from a moron I used to work with. His name is Brian Swingley. HIS phone number is: 406-442-3097 which may not work because he moves frequently or he can possibly be reached at: 406-461-8081. This is his mommy’s cell phone number and she can get in touch with him. He often has lived with his mommy because he can’t take care of himself here in Helena, MT. He is a big 36 year old immature kid who says he can’t even cook simple foods like mac & cheese. My 11 year old son makes this all the time by himself and once in awhile he’ll even bake a cake.
      Mr. Swingley has huge problems, some of which I believe are mental. I say this because from working with the guy he has had to take medical leave and go for treatment for 2 months.
      He is very stupid when it comes to working on vehicles. As I have tried to be a friend to Mr. Swingley by helping him with his 1986 Dodge pick-up doing the following: changed spark-plugs, wires, oil, filter, tune-up, brakes, front rotors and bearings, and a carb rebuild among other things that friends do. I have found, by accident, that he has been posting messages on this site for nearly a year without my knowledge. This happened one day when I received a phone call from Jeff Klein, sales manager at Nology. I told Mr. Klein nearly the same thing I am telling you here. I believe he in fact did call Mr. Swingley because immediately the next day he quit his job and passed me by on his way out the door without saying a word to me.
      I would never try and change plug wires while the engine is running, and I’m fully aware that you don’t touch the wires due to the chance of being shocked. I have worked on vehicles since I was 16 and I have also taken automotive classes on brake systemes and engine rebuilding.
      Notice also, when Brian writes he uses all capital lettering. I have told him writing this way means that you are yelling at the person. I don’t write like that. If you would like to know more, do go ahead and call me at the number he has posted. It is my real phone number.
      Thank you,
      Bob Yudiski

      P.S. Yes John, I do know how to spell my name. I’m kinda laughing in a way too.

      Comment by Bob Y. | August 25, 2010 | Reply

      • Bob, it is good to finally have some sort of grasp onto what has been going on,, I do apologize for any of my comments made to posts by this MORON you post about

        It is not really neccessary for me to call you,, as a matter of fact, it kind of surprises me that Jeff Klein called you after he and I spoke to one another about this particular site and BRIANS posts, Lol

        I will take into account whom posted what and how foolish they are now that even more info as far as identification of the perpetrator is listed for others to call and ask him just WTF was up his you know what in doing as he did

        John E.

        Comment by john ethelweisner | August 25, 2010

  45. Having sold Nology products as well as other popular brands such as MSD, Denso, Bosch, etc. Nology products have provided the most noticeable gains. No problems from any of the products unless they were taken home with the customer and installed by the customer. Better known as back yard mechanics that know how to take things on and off but don’t have a clue on how it works. So yes there may be problems posted here but I’m on Nology’s side and will stand behind their product. Some of the best, expensive things don’t work sometimes too.

    Comment by Hawaii S2K | May 5, 2010 | Reply

    • Amen brother!!! I believe in and promote Nology products for one reason,,,,, THEY WORK!!

      The only time you may notice little (if any) gain is when they’re installed onto an “Already dialed in” combo (very little if any room for improvement to be made) AND THAT IS THE ONLY TIME YOU’LL NOTICE LITTLE (IF ANY) GAIN!!!

      I stand behind what I just posted immediately above 1000%!!!

      Comment by john ethelweisner | August 25, 2010 | Reply

      • Going to have to agree..I’ve been dealing with Nology for a long time. It’s hard to argue they don’t work when as soon as you take out the Magna-core wires and the platinum plus four to replace it with nology wires and silverstone plugs it changes the tone of the idle alone! I am going to have to say the plugs make the biggest difference but don’t get them if you think they’ll last forever. True motor heads can understand plugs need to be changed. Specially one’s that put out so much spark!

        Comment by Nology For Life | October 6, 2010

  46. I used to have these on my Del Sol and didn’t really notice any improvements over stock. I thought about getting them for my prelude, but after reading this I think I will pass

    Comment by WhiteSites | May 23, 2010 | Reply

    • Read my immediate/above post,, yours may well have been close to it’s peak and not really have much (if any) room for gain,,, ?

      Comment by john ethelweisner | August 25, 2010 | Reply

  47. I purchased a hot wires for my mazda 323 turbo and they cause short in my coil and misfiring during the first month of use.

    I think is very expensive wire with a very low performance

    Comment by Axel Rivera | November 9, 2010 | Reply

  48. I don`t see what u liars are talking about. Maybe u are just trying to screw a good company out of business, I have tried and tested and still run these wires to this day on many machines and have had ZERO problems at all with them!

    Comment by Dylan Cutcher | April 5, 2011 | Reply

  49. these comment ontop is taken from:
    Magnecor site. and Magecor is their competitor. can you do your own research and stop cut and paste. have you try the Nology hotwire or the silver spark plug. are you being paid by the competitor to write these review.kinda biased report. take a dynotest of before and after installing the hotwire. my machine run lean… I’m happy with the result

    Comment by sky | May 1, 2011 | Reply

  50. I just bought nology hotwires and nology silver spark recently, I am going to install it onto my civic 2007 K20Z2 engine (new model). When I brought it to garage, the mechanic suggest me not to install the hotwires by considering:
    – the OEM coil is COP (direct), by extending the distance of COP with spark plug you will deteriorate the current intensity even the wires is equipped with capacitor.
    Can anyone provide me with the technical reason that the above statement is true or wrong?
    Thank you

    Comment by Ricky Therademaker | October 26, 2011 | Reply

  51. scam. that is all.

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